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Old 10-30-2004, 05:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
Carl Rose (Carlrose)
 
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Default Hi JRV et al, Finally -abo

Hi JRV et al,

Finally -about 9 months into this- think I have isolated my idle run problem (symptom: running rich and "popping" in exhaust).

The K-Jetronic/lambda uses an "oil temperature switch" to signal the ECU to accept input from the throttle microswitch idle position; effectively once warm with completes the circuit to ground to adjust (lean) mixture accordingly.

This is shown as #154 on the FIG 2 wiring diagram; note this is exclusively a FI control switch and *not* the oil temperature switch FIG 5 #13/part# 107576 that signals the dash gauge, nor the coolant tank switch #158, nor either oil pressure/low oil pressure warning light switches. It is shown as red/pink-striped wire into one side and black out the other, leading me to infer this is a two-terminal switch.

The left fenderwell multi-connector indeed has two red/pink-striped wires joining at the plug on the engine side, leading me to beleve the wiring diagram is accurate and the switch is located *somewhere* on the engine side. Retrograde grounding this terminal simulates a closed switch, and car idles properly.

Anyone know exactly where this switch is located? I've (erronously & experienced small oil slick -smile) replaced the dash oil temp switch, but have scrutinized as best as possible the lower aspect of the motor & searched the archives to no avail.

All suggestions much appreciated. If anyone needs help on the K-Jetronic/lambda system I've had to learn a reasonable amount and will be happy to share.

Thanks in advance,

Carl
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Old 10-30-2004, 09:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
Brian Brown (Unregistered Guest)
 
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Default Carl , I think that the oil t

Carl ,
I think that the oil temperature switch screws into a banjo fitting at the oil return hose from the oil separator on the front of the sump.

Brian
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Old 10-31-2004, 06:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
Carl Rose (Carlrose)
 
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Default Thanks Mr. Brown! Found thi

Thanks Mr. Brown!

Found this (after posting) late last night before going to bed. Part #115652. Ordering one tomm.

Thanks for your help,

Carl
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Old 11-01-2004, 04:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
Richelson (308gts)
 
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Default Carl could you send me a pic o

Carl could you send me a pic of the diagram? I haven't heard of this part on 308s. Do they have it as well? I couldn't even find it in my Bosch books. Thanks.
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Old 11-01-2004, 02:27 PM   #5 (permalink)
Carl Rose (Carlrose)
 
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Default Sure - this is from Carmine:

Sure - this is from Carmine:



You're looking at "rear" side of motor adjacent to starter motor. It's listed as "water temp sender" but is actually an oil temp sender. Ordered this AM from TR for $22. It's in the parts book but is actually referenced in the owner's manual. I don't think it's a Bosch part (perhaps Veglia)?

Carl
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