Carb fuel pumps Facet vs Holley vs stock

Have the opportunity to replace a fuel pump in a carb'd car. Any recommendations or experience with the original versus a Facet or Holley Red in a carb'd car?
Many thanks
rt

I have used Facet with good results, but make sure it is properly grounded, via bonding jumper to frame, around the rubber vibration isolators!

Had one of the two parallel Facet fail on me after 2 years – about 10,000 miles. It failed in a high current state, which blew the “single” fuel pump fuse(s) and left me stranded. I had heard that there was a bad run of them a couple of years back. Have one new and one old now. I need to check to see if the other old one is actually running.

Personally I would prefer to put in a Holley with a fuel regulator and that is what I intend to do if I have any more trouble. The Holley technology was designed to run constantly, only issue is originality. My understanding with the Facet was that it was designed to pressure up and then stop once the line reached 4 PSI. I my C4, there is a return line to keep the fuel cool and prevent vapor lock, which means that the pump is constantly running – again this seems more suited to the Holley design.

Just my thoughts

Aaron

Thanks Alan and Aaron
I opted to go with and installed a Holley 'Red' pump this weekend with a Holley regulator. It is MUCH quieter than the previous Facet with an almost inaudible low hum before start. Sometimes even in the Mondial you could hear the thunka-thunka puttering of the Facet over the engine. Dead head (no return line) pressure at the carbs is 3#, and I have an orificed return line to prevent vapor-lock as well.
Have not had a chance to take it out yet - will let you know.
best
rt

I use a Holley Red pump. I have used it for over 5 years. Great pump. It is noisey but other than that very reliable.

Bendix has a pump that was used on the Dino which should work also, don't have the pt no though

As this old guy tries to remember,Facet has 3 different sizes of pumps. They are sized on how much horsepower they can support. The smallest one will support less that 200 hp.

Quick follow up question:

Do the Facet or Holley require a regulator in a return flow system?

The Facet pumps that I purchased from Napa auto parts were set up for 4 PSI - correct for the C4. They were close to $100 each. Originally I had Bendix but they did not survive the 30 year. probably "stuff" dried out... The Bendix pumps are identical to the Facets except for the label.

If I remember correctly (???) the holley generates about 9 PSI and needs to be regulated down to 4 for webers. I did run 9 psi (no regulator for a couple of days a while back as a test only. I would not try this long term because of concern regarding the weber float/needle systems ability to maintain fuel levels in the carbs - with weber DCOEs, if a needle & seat fail open, the float level raises until gas poors through the mains into the engine.

Aaron

Cross - posted as it applies to my fuel pump change. Lesson: only change one thing at a time:


In my continuing effort to screwup a perfectly good running car by outsmarting myself, I decided to go down a size on my idle jets to cover a fairly rich idle istuation - (idling A/F in mid - 11s at 2 - 2.5 turns on the screws). It runs fine on 140/F24/190 if a bit rich. Well, changed the jets (55 to 50). It is also at this point where I made the agregious error of changing a couple of other things (like the fuel pump for a quieter model) in violation of the change only one thing at a time if you can rule.
Well, synch'd up the carbs within 0.5 on the flow meter at idle and got a composite A/F at idle of mid 13s ( LM-1s rock!) with about 1.5 turns out on the mixture screws. Well, went to rev it up and she went way rough and lean at 5000 rpm with A/F climbing through 16. I figure running out of fuel delivery on the main circuit so I think "oh crap, a bad fuel pump". So, back on goes the Facet which had worked fine before, just a bit loud. Again, lean at 5000 running out of gas. So - Couldn't be the idles, it idles fine. Must be the fuel regulator as someone said they go bad. Verified that I can run the Facet without the regulator (4#), but same behavior. Crap.
Put the 55 idles back in now figuring it must be a transition problem - well, all better - life is good.
Those idles really do affect transition! Anyway, just a lesson learned