Hello, I've been researching 360 F1's in preparation to purchase a good, used late model version. I am wondering if anyone has some insight/information regarding the following: I see that with the 360 you can get either a black, mesh-type "Competition Grille" on the back (section between the tail-lights) or a solid, matching-colored body panel. I have two questions. 1) Is the Competition Grille just an option or is there purposeful reason for it? 2)Is one rear panel better than the other, i.e., with the solid panel, does the engine overheat or heat-up more? Any info on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
the Challenge Grille with the holes is FAR BETTER..it was an option and few street cars came with it...it is definately an upgrade for cars not equipped. It vents quite a bit of hot air out of the engine Comp. the cooler an engine (& compt) runs, the longer it will last and the more HP it will produce. A must do imo.
I would recommend geting both the front and rear Challenge grills. They are an extra, but as noted above they allow for far more heat dissipation than the stock panels. They are absolutely necessary if you track the car at all, but won't matter that much if you are doing normal road driving, unless you love to keep the RPMs above 5000 (I don't). They also look much cooler.
You can do the install yourself in about an hour. Straight bolt-in.
Can you provide information on what benefit the front Challenge grills provide? The improved venting of the rear Challenge grill over the solid stock panel is obvious, but doesn't the 360 already have a pair of grills in front? How are the front Challenge grills better than the stock? Also, what function do the front grills perform? Are they for brake cooling, oil cooling or other?
I will not be using the car for any track or racing purpose, strictly steet use. Mostly long-distance highway use and curvy scenic roads. I live in Boston so I do have to contend with slow and standing traffic situations in the City. Does the 360 (or late model ferrari's in general) experience overheating problems in this type of traffic scenario? From what I've read, I'm assuming reliability for long-distance drives isn't a problem. I tend to use my "fun" cars every weekend and tend to put about 4,000 miles a year on them. I would expect to do the same with the ferrari.
The right front grill cools the right radiator and is also on when you have the air coditioner on. The left front grill cools both the left radiator and oil cooler. It comes on as needed. They both vent through the grills in the front wheel wells and through exhausts in the fenders in front of the front tires. The challange grills are a fine mesh, they prevents rocks and gravel from damaging the radiators or oil cooler. The non challange grills have larger openings (egg crates) and more than likly let in more air therefore cool better.
If you are not tracking the car where you might ingest gravel and all sorts of track debris into the front ducts at 150mph and damage the radiator and/or oil cooler then you probably do not need the front Challenge grills. I live in an area where there are many gravel and/or unpaved roads for the horse people, so I opted to be safe since they are fairly cheap (about $350 each).
Does anyone have any information on overheating in slow traffic conditions? Has this been a problem? How has the F1 transmission been in regard to performance versus a standard stick arrangement, as well as reliability and maintenance? Are the 2004 model 360's overall a good vehicle? Have there been any major maintenance problems that have popped up, other than routine maintenance?
I have a 99 6 speed and have had trouble with the sending unit ground. The car is not overheating but due to a bad ground the gauge shows a bad overheating problem. I was told that this is a common problem.
I am looking into the purchase of either a 355 F1 spider or used 360 spider. I have heard from a number of people that I am looking at trouble with either model. I will not be using these to race but want to be able to drive - not store. This won't be my only car, just a nice second one. I keep hearing that I will need to do belt services and worry about costly transmission issues. I am told to purchase a nice 911 Turbo Cabriolet instead but it does not move me like a Ferrari does. Am I looking for trouble? I know you are all bias but it would be nice to know exactly what I am looking to get into and it is obvious there are those here that have the answer. Thanks for any time you can take answering my questions.
I have owned a December 2001 production 360 spider since purchase in April 2002 with 200 miles on it.
I own a bunch of other cars, including other Ferraris, but love the 360 spyder for it's power, smoothness and dependability, and have put 16,000 trouble-free miles on it, street and track, until I bought a dedicated race car. However, it is a manual shift. My 360 Challenge car was a paddle shift, and was prone to all sorts of ridiculous problems-some associaed with race car abuse, and some with the poorly designed F-1 shifter and alternator.
I have had 1 cam belt change on the spyder, at 3 years from delivery, and it was cheap (by Ferrari standards), as the engine does not need to be pulled. I have also done a belt change on my Challenge car between midnight and 4 AM to get ready for a race, but I had a Ferrari mechanic with me. Otherwise I have had only a few small problems with the spyder, all of which were cured under warranty.
Speaking of warranty, at the 15,000 mile service I was offered a continuation factory warranty from Ferrari, 2 years for $7,000. If you buy the warranty they do the entire 15K service (belts, fluids, tensioners, etc.) at 50% off. Get this if you can. They will do a compression test on your car first to see if you qualify for extended warranty.
I'd say go for a good 6 speed, avoid the F-1, have it carefully checked out, make sure all service records are proper, and try to get the extended warranty. If properly maintained, these cars are pretty bulletproof. I'm not selling mine any time soon. If you want more info feel free to send me a private message.