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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Nice drive today. Car through

Nice drive today. Car throughtly warnmed up. On my way home about 2 miles to go. Made a left turn at 5mph and bang. Thought it was a backfire. No such luck. Engine fine. Deep rumble when in gear. Took it out of gear immediately. Coasted to vacant lot. Dropping Royal Purple all over the place. Got flat bedded home. Put her in the garage. Thought it might be the half shafts but they look OK. Not a through examination though.

What would make it loose fluid like that? Hope I did not crack the case. Look at it tomorrow and decide what to do.

On the brighter side, since the engine will probably have to come out might as well do the belts/water pump since it has been six years.

Anyone what to quess what let loose?

Let you all know when I find out.

Drew
 
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Discussion Starter · #2 ·
Tough call, Drew...

IF she


Tough call, Drew...

IF she quiet in neutral, like you broke the input shaft. This is normally not too big of a deal, unless she decide to exit rearward thru the transfer case. Otherwise, possibly one of the diff side cover bearing failed...and took the cover with it. That would be a major ouch!

Or...having seen this one before, the nut on the main shaft in the front of the gearbox loosened up...and took the front cover of the transaxle. This would be a major ouch, as well.

I'm very familiar with the innards of these transaxles, so feel free to drop me a note if you need a second opinion.

Sorry to hear...


Regards,
David
 
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Discussion Starter · #3 ·
Thanks David,

I was thinkin


Thanks David,

I was thinking input shaft as the car is quiet in neutral. What is troubling me is that it was dripping a lot of transmission fluid which may indicate damage to the case. I'm going to have a good look at it tonight to see if I can see the problem.

Last night after I got her home I just put the cover on and had a glass of wine, well make that a bottle.

Let you know.
 
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Discussion Starter · #4 ·
Drew - sorry to hear about thi

Drew - sorry to hear about this. Unlike David, I know nothing about what goes in there, but the smallest thing out of whack can make a lot of noise, or worse. Once the gearbox is split from the engine, does anyone know who it can be sent to, maybe JRV? I would want this done right and once, which means it probably needs to be shipped to a trans specialist, or David if he is interested to rebuild it.

Thanks,
Ted
 
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Discussion Starter · #5 ·
I am going to talk to Steve Ah

I am going to talk to Steve Ahlgrim in Atlanta later today; an old friend and generally a partner in my car buying experiences. Steve knows a lot of guys over there from the old FAF. I am thinking of sending the car over there to see what went wrong. Then having someone over there pull the engine, do the belts, split the transmission and then as you suggest ship the trans, if it needs to be shipped to an expert.

It will be very interesting to get up under there tonight to see if I can see where all the Royal Purple gear oil was coming from.

I really can't complain. This is the first major problem I have had with a Ferrari in over 20 years of ownership. As I told my wife last night, don't play the game unless you have the money to fix stuff when it goes south.

Let you know what I find out.

Drew
 
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Discussion Starter · #6 ·
Well I just got up from undern

Well I just got up from underneath the car. The gear oil is leaking from the passenger side of the gearbox. It is coming from the place where the half shalf CV joint enters the differential. It appears that this has pulled away from the gearbox itself. There does not appear to be any damage to the exterior of the gearbox. I took this picture. The other side looks very different.

David could you PM me tomorrow at [email protected] with you phone number? I would like a little expert guidance if you would not mind.

Keep you informed.

Drew

 
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Discussion Starter · #7 ·
good luck, maybe just lost the

good luck, maybe just lost the diff bearing and seal, might be able to fix it without pulling the motor

at worst something in the diff gave out
 
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Discussion Starter · #8 ·
Drew,

This could be a fairl


Drew,

This could be a fairly simple repair...It appears that (likely) the bolt that holds the axle flange to the differential stub axle has backed out. Had a diff seal replaced lately? The clearances between the inner axle flange and the diff cover are pretty tight, so likely you heard the output flange rubbing against the diff cover.

If the carrier bearing has been damaged...I believe that on the passenger side only, the bearing can be replaced without separating the engine from the gearbox. However, on the driver's side, to change the diff carrier bearing, the engine and transaxle must be separated, as one of the engine studs actually secures thru the carrier bearing holder.

I'll drop you a note with my new phone number tomorrow...

Regards,
David
 
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Discussion Starter · #9 ·
Thanks David,

Sorry to be s


Thanks David,

Sorry to be so dense, but the engine still has to come out to get at the bearing, if it is as you suggested, or can it be done in place?

Call you tomorrow.

Drew
 
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Discussion Starter · #10 ·
I;ve seen an axle flange or tw

I;ve seen an axle flange or two break & a few come loose. David sounds like he is on the right track here.

Some of you know & some don't, but I'm fighting cancer right now and in & out of the hospital & the rest of the time in chemo.

I really appreciate everyone taking up the slack in my absense. We seem to have the absolute smartest guys here so let them help & don't think every problem is a crisis until they have time to offer their help.
 
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Discussion Starter · #11 ·
Well JR, I had no idea. Very

Well JR, I had no idea. Very sorry to hear that. You are probably in one of the best places in the world for care.

Best wishes and get better soon.

Drew
 
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
JRV,

I didn't know of y


JRV,

I didn't know of your fight with cancer. I'll be praying for you. Hang in there with your chemo treatment, I'm sure you will win this fight. My best wishes.

Milton
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
JRV, you don't know me, bu

JRV, you don't know me, but I have followed your advice/instructions/recommendations for a long time with great success. I will now say a special prayer for you and your family.
Chris.
 
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Discussion Starter · #16 ·
Good day JRV,

My thoughts a


Good day JRV,

My thoughts and prayers are for you to have a speedy recovery!

Best regards,

Sam
 
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Discussion Starter · #17 ·
Guys,

this site isn't a


Guys,

this site isn't and never was about me. Thank You ALL sincerly for the well wishes!!!! My only real point was I can't at this time participate & answer every question in a timely manner like in the past, and that we are very fortunate to have guys here that know at least as much if not more than I do. They are honest, serious guys that are really what make this site as important as it is. We have MANY no BS experts here!!!!! And beyond that they freely give of their time & expertise to help the Huge Ferrari Community keep ftom being ripped off! No matter my own outcome I live everyday Proud of having so many Selfless Helpers that really don't get the Credit They Deserve for Taking Their Time to help Others!!!! They Do It Because They ARE GOOD PEOPLE and I Thank Them And I Hope You Guys Will Thank Them Once in awhile so that they Know that their Efforts & Time is Appreciated!!!!
 
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
Drew,

Boxers have the same


Drew,

Boxers have the same Diff as early TR's, but unless you were doing burnouts it could be a craked LSTD Diff but that issue usually leaks on the left, not right and the trans will still work with the side blown out believe it or not. So again, look for simpler problems as David Suggests.
 
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Discussion Starter · #19 ·
JRV,
This site is about y


JRV,
This site is about you. And all the other good people you have pulled together to share hard earned information about Ferrari's.
Stay strong, my friend, we are all pulling for you. Bob
 
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Discussion Starter · #20 ·
A picture is worth a thousand

A picture is worth a thousand words:

The side differential spacer cracked and cover broke off inside the differential. It looks like the ring gear may have a few small nicks from what we can see looking up the differential drain opening. But it is very hard to see. We are pulling the engine and going to split the trans to see how much damage was done.

I have been told the ring and pinion are a matched set and are very expensive. I don't know if there are just a few nicks on the ring if it will be OK.

David and JRV, appreciate any comments.

 
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