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I have been having the hardest

I have been having the hardest time finding a documented Ferrari at a reasonable price. I have made 4 offers In the last 4 weeks and not one callback. I guess Ferrari people just have too much money and obviously they don't need mine.

I have a buddy that has a 1972 Pantera that has been restored from the ground up. He has over 50k In receipts for the car. I was talking to him yesterday and explaining my dilemma to him.
He suggested that I buy his Pantera. He said at least you know who has owned the car and how It was taken care of. A Pantera Is definitly not my first choice but the way things are going maybe It's not a bad Idea. Your comments are always appreciated whether pro or con.
 
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Pantera is a great car if you&

Pantera is a great car if you've got all the reliabilty issues taken care of, and it sounds like he has....It'll hang with 308, 328's all day long. Modified it can keep company with 348's and 355's on a performance level. The styling is timeless, and they're easier to work on. By the way, I owned a 74L, and two Ferrari's. Pantera is first love.
 
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I had a 72 (chrome bumper&

I had a 72 (chrome bumper). Depending on where you are (why don't you register?), there might be rust issues in the rockers. 50K in upgrades is about 50% more than one is worth, what has he done? There are a lot of "trick" mods that seriously degrade reliability and driveabity, plus GTS-wannabe trick rivet-on flares and hokey airfoils, although well thought out mods can make this into a true supercar. As rayman said, the looks are timeless graceful italian, although be sure the a/c works - you're head is about 6 inches from the engine front, otherwise it will get HOT in the interior. Check the cooling system carefully, many times the radiator baffles were "upgraded"} to provide more flow, when the opposite is needed, along with vents. Other misc: windshield delamination, zf transaxle repair (very expensive), neck braces after you floor that torquey 351
, windshield wipers float at about 130mph
. A lot of fun if maintained properly, but not as refined and nimble as a F-car.
Tom
 
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I'm not really a Pantera a

I'm not really a Pantera aficionado. All I know Is his car was professional done by Wilkinson Pantera and he has receipts totaling 50k. Since having his car restored he has only put on 2,000 miles.
 
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If it was done by Wilkinson, i

If it was done by Wilkinson, it was done right. He's the best in the business.
 
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Well, if the modifier is well

Well, if the modifier is well recommended (I haven't had the Pantera for 10 years now) and not backyard mods, then the next step is a test drive (or two, three....
). Make sure there's no hesitation (sometimes over carbed), water temp doesn't peg out in traffic, and you can live with the clutch effort and handling. BE AWARE: these things are cop magnets besides being more fun than a human should be allowed to have! It would be a great lead-in to an eventual F-car, you can get an idea what it is to have an exotic without most of the high cost (many parts are Ford interchangable, as I found out in Show Low AZ when a wheel bearing gave up).
Tom
 
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I own a GT5S Pantera, and am c

I own a GT5S Pantera, and am close to finalising a deal on a bb512i, but I dont think I will ever sell the Pantera, they are fantastic machines, a real raw driving experience, massive road presence and unbelievable sound, take a drive and you will be hooked, Wilkinson is a reputable DeTomaso specialist but that doesnt mean that some of the work done to the car in the cosmetics area in particular are good, for example an upgrade to 18" wheels also needs suspension mods to correct the lack of caster and aftermarket wheels will always be heavier, giving more unsprung weight, remember the factory wheels are very light magnesium alloy, like oreious posts say make sure it stays cool in traffic, below about 205deg, aircon working and gearchange is smooth, of its anearly model has the zf transaxle been safety wired? good luck
steve
 
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I heard the company Detomaso I

I heard the company Detomaso Is In liquidation.
How will this effect the parts availability? Will the cars Increase or decrease In value considering the liquidation of the company? What has Detomaso done In the last 10 years? Do they have any kind of a racing history?
 
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Yes DeTomaso announced they ar

Yes DeTomaso announced they are going into liquidation two days ago, the asset side of the business is in liquidation however the family will retain the name and all associated rights, patents etc, as for parts availabilty, everything can now be sourced from independent vendors such is the following these cars have, values will surely rise, they have been doing so for the last three years, all models are rare esp the mangusta and later model panteras GT5 and GT5S, after two years I could sell my car tomorrow at a 30% profit! They currently produce a car called the Guara, hand built to order it is powered by a 400bhp v8 is very fast, but not to everybodies taste. The company has a strong racing history and was involved in F1 with their own car, and Frank Williams, there is much info on the history on the net just type De Tomaso into any search
Steve
 
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