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I have a 1985 308QV and just o

I have a 1985 308QV and just ordered new brakes hoses from Ferrari UK. I noticed that these hoses have a date stamped on them (forget the date but sometime in 2003). I am assuming that this is the production date of the hoses. My question is how often should I replace the brake hoses in my car?
 
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Hi Ken,

Personally I think


Hi Ken,

Personally I think 15 yrs is about as long as the hoses last before the possibility of atrophy or weakness becomes an issue. I have never seen a hose under 20 yrs old just blow out, but hoses that old do start causing various strange braking problems.

HTH's

Regards, JRV
 
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Hi Ken,

I echo JRVs respons


Hi Ken,

I echo JRVs response, though I feel 10 years might be about the "safe" limit. The hoses "blowing out" has never been my concern, but rather internal blockage issues. As part of my yearly maintenance, I had a problem with low fluid flow to one of the front brake calipers, coupled with a slight brake pull. As it turned out, once I cut the hose open...it was about 75% blocked with ??. New hoses, all the way around was the solution!

Regards,
David
 
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Jeremy,

I got mine from Ted


Jeremy,

I got mine from Ted Rutland's, down in Atlanta. I don't remember the exact price, but really cheap...


Regards,
David
 
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Excellent David. I'll have

Excellent David. I'll have JR order some and we will post a "how to" for others wanting to do the same.

Jeremy
 
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I just checked the brake hoses

I just checked the brake hoses on my car and they are dated 12/1984. Being that they are 19 years old, I am glad that they will be replaced soon. Does anyone have any tips or pointers as to changing the hoses? They appear to just unscrew, but 19 years of rust and heat may make them difficult to remove.

Ken
 
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Hi Ken,

Typically the hoses


Hi Ken,

Typically the hoses are not that hard to disassemble. The ends are Cad Plated to minimize corrosion and rust. They very well may be tight though, so use the correct size wrenches to avoid rounding off the nuts.

>>just checked the brake hoses on my car and they are dated 12/1984. Being that they are 19 years old,<<

seems hard to believe but 308's are 20 & more yrs old now. Most have held up exceedingly well given their age.

Regards, JRV
 
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Thanks for the info JRV. I am

Thanks for the info JRV. I am very happy with my 308QV so far (knock on wood). Other than a Boxer, I would not trade it for any other Ferrari. The 308's just look so good and are great to drive. Too bad they have such little power.

Ken
 
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Ken, if you are DIY, I believe

Ken, if you are DIY, I believe JRV means use a "flare nut" wrench when he says "use the correct size wrenches..."
 
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Twice I have seen 911s in the

Twice I have seen 911s in the shop with the rear brakes seized. The hose was so internally swollen that it acted as a one-way valve holding pressure on the rear caliper.
On removal I could not blow shop at 120psi air through the hose.
One case required completely new calipers, rotors and of course pads. In that instance the brakes had created so much heat that the backing plate of the pad looked like a potato chip.
Both of these cars were essentially garage queens, with very low mileage.

In neither case was the master cylinder at fault, though I have seen it happen on Mercedes several times where the fault was with the master cylinder.
 
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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
I've got some stainless st

I've got some stainless steel lines I'm putting in this winter. I do plan to use a flare wrench, but I've tried to get them off before for something else and it was impossible to crack. I plan to use a fair amount of penetrant a few times for a few days before I attempt to open them up again.

--Mike
 
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Discussion Starter · #13 ·
Mike,
please be careful not


Mike,
please be careful not to allow ANY "penetrant" to enter the caliper. It can cause failure of the caliper seals and brake failure. Any oil is a big no-no in brake systems. The correct flare nut wrench should do the job. Might have to use a length of tube added over the handle if the fittings are really stuck. Bob
 
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Hi Guys,

Most here know thi


Hi Guys,

Most here know this but I guess it never hurts to remind everyone that Brake Systems rust from the inside out becuase of brake fluids hydroscopic nature (absorbs moisture from the air), and need to be flushed every couple years (or even more frequently if used on a track, perhaps 2-3 times a year) to remove the rust promoting moisture. Flushing also helps remove that black looking stuff in the Fluid Resorvoirs, which is disolved rubber from the seals. This flushing doesn't negate the need for new hoses, but it does prolong the life of the rest of the Brake System pieces.

Regards, JRV
 
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